This is magisterium: the Council is the magisterium of the Church.
Either you are with the Church and therefore you follow the Council, and if you do not follow the Council or you interpret it in your own way, as you wish, you are not with the Church. In this respect, we have to be demanding, severe. No, the Council is not subject to negotiation in order to have more of these…. No, this is how it is with the council. And this problem that we are experiencing, the selectivity of the Council, has been repeated throughout history with other Councils. It gives me so much to think about a group of bishops that after Vatican I left, a group of laypeople, other groups, to continue the “true doctrine” that was not that of Vatican I. “We are the true Catholics”…. Today they ordain women. The most severe attitude, to guard the faith without the magisterium of the Church, leads you to ruin. Please, no concessions to those who try to present a catechesis that is not in accordance with the Magisterium of the Church.
Pope Francis, Address to Members of Italy’s National Catechetical Office, Vatican.va, Jan. 30, 2021.
Either you are with the Church and therefore you follow the Council, and if you do not follow the Council or you interpret it in your own way, as you wish, you are not with the Church. In this respect, we have to be demanding, severe. No, the Council is not subject to negotiation in order to have more of these…. No, this is how it is with the council. And this problem that we are experiencing, the selectivity of the Council, has been repeated throughout history with other Councils. It gives me so much to think about a group of bishops that after Vatican I left, a group of laypeople, other groups, to continue the “true doctrine” that was not that of Vatican I. “We are the true Catholics”…. Today they ordain women. The most severe attitude, to guard the faith without the magisterium of the Church, leads you to ruin. Please, no concessions to those who try to present a catechesis that is not in accordance with the Magisterium of the Church.Having heard this, I have 7 questions for Pope Francis regarding Vatican 2 as “the Magisterium”:
- Does V2 fall under extraordinary magisterium? (see quote below)
- Does V2 bear the mark of infallibility? (see quote below)
- If Latin is not used, does one not stand with the Church? (see quote below)
- If Gregorian chant is not used, does one stand with the Church? (see quote below)
- Must I believe V2 statement on Hindus? (see quote below)
- Must I believe V2 statement on Buddhists? (see quote below)
- Must I believe V2 statement on Other Religions? (see quote below)
- “In view of the pastoral nature of the Council, it has avoided proclaiming in an extraordinary manner any dogma carrying the mark of infallibility.” Pope Paul VI, Audience of 12 January 1966.
- V2 is not Extraordinary Magisterium. “But one thing must be noted here, namely, that the teaching authority of the Church, even though not wishing to issue extraordinary dogmatic pronouncements, has made thoroughly known its authoritative teaching on a number of questions which today weigh upon man’s conscience and activity, descending, so to speak, into a dialogue with him, but ever preserving its own authority and force; it has spoken with the accommodating friendly voice of pastoral charity.” Pope Paul VI, Discourse closing Vatican II, 7 December 1965
- Latin: Sacrosanctum Concilium 36. 1. “Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.”
- Gregorian chant: Sacrosanctum Concilium 116. “The Church acknowledges Gregorian chant as specially suited to the Roman liturgy: therefore, other things being equal, it should be given pride of place in liturgical services.”
- Hinduism: “Thus in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible abundance of myths and through searching philosophical inquiry. They seek freedom from the anguish of our human condition either through ascetical practices or profound meditation or a flight to God with love and trust.
- Buddhism: “Again, Buddhism, in its various forms, realizes the radical insufficiency of this changeable world; it teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination.
- Other Religions: Likewise, other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing “ways,” comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites.
No one can tell us that the Sacred Deposit of Faith given by our Divine Lord Jesus Christ to Saint Peter and the Holy Apostles contained these incorrect teachings about Hindus, Buddhists, and Other Religions.
- Hinduism has its origins starting somewhere between 1900 BC to 1400 BC.
- Siddhārtha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism was born in the 5th or 4th century BC. Christ taught nothing about it.
- And other polytheistic and idolatrous religions started as far back as the Tower of Babel.
We cannot rightly believe that our Lord Jesus Christ taught the above teachings to the Apostles regarding these false religions.
– Taylor Marshall
PS: I cover all these topics in a Podcast video:
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