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		<title>JD Vance and Thomas Aquinas on Ordo Amoris</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>JD Vance stirred the pot by referencing Saint Augustine&#8217;s biblical concept of ordo amoris or &#8220;order of love.&#8221; Catholicism argues for a hierarchy of duty with regard to the love of neighbor. Christ our Lord taught the parable of the Good Samaritan to reveal that our duty to love our neighbor extends to all. Nevertheless, [&#8230;]</p>
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					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD Vance stirred the pot by referencing Saint Augustine&#8217;s biblical concept of ordo amoris or &#8220;order of love.&#8221;</p>
<p>Catholicism argues for a hierarchy of duty with regard to the love of neighbor. Christ our Lord taught the parable of the Good Samaritan to reveal that our duty to love our neighbor extends to all. Nevertheless, the order of love is not flattened out completely and redistributed to all persons without distinction. For example, as a married man, I have the obligation of love to make sure that my wife&#8217;s medical care is being met before I do the other 50 women on the same hospital floor. There is a higher love for my wife that is not wrong or selfish. Likewise, I have a higher obligation of love to make sure that my own children are properly nourished and clothed&#8211;above my duty to to feed and clothe children in France.</p>
<p>The principle is set down by Saint Paul:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">But if any man have not care of his own, and especially of those of his house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. 1 Timothy 5:8</p>
<p>As a Christian, I must have a concern for the well-being of all people made in the image of God, but I have a rightful prior concern for &#8220;those of his house.&#8221;</p>
<p>Saint Thomas Aquinas discusses the hierarchy or ordo caritatis (order of charity) at Summa theologiae II, q. 26 and orders love in this way:</p>
<ol>
<li>God</li>
<li>Myself (&#8220;a man ought to love himself more than his neighbor.&#8221;)</li>
<li>Neighbor</li>
<li>My body (:&#8221;we ought to love our neighbor more than our own body.&#8221;)</li>
</ol>
<p>Regarding our neighbor, Thomas teaches we love all universally but practically we must love unequally</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">On this respect we love all men equally out of charity: because we wish them all one same generic good, namely everlasting happiness. Secondly love is said to be greater through its action being more intense: and in this way we ought not to love all equally. STh q. 26, a. 6.</p>
<p>The degree of care we have for our various neighbors is related to proximity levels of kinship, friendship, and nationality:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Moreover there is yet another reason for which, out of charity, we love more those who are more nearly connected with us, since we love them in more ways. For, towards those who are not connected with us we have no other friendship than charity, whereas for those who are connected with us, we have certain other friendships, according to the way in which they are connected. STh q. 26, a. 6.</p>
<p>A proper ordo amoris may look like this:</p>
<ol>
<li>God</li>
<li>myself</li>
<li>my spouse</li>
<li>my family, children and parents</li>
<li>my godchildren and extended family</li>
<li>my friends and coworkers</li>
<li>my neighborhood (I pay HOA for this one, not all neighborhoods)</li>
<li>my county</li>
<li>my state</li>
<li>my nation</li>
<li>my nation&#8217;s allies</li>
</ol>
<p>The Christian may at any time extend charity, love and care to someone outside this levels of proximate and remote relationships. An American traveling for business can give alms to a stranger in Argentina. The act is perfectly Christian if done with the proper intention to honor God. The alms would immoral, however, if that money prevented him from paying the mortgage on his family home or prevented him from paying for a taxi to make his airplane flight back to his family. The ordo amoris establishes the what is and is not allowed in the quest for charity toward God and neighbor.</p>
<p>Consequently, we use our goods and time to execute a positive effect in the world so that &#8220;thy kingdom come, by will be done.&#8221; There is however a rational order, hierarchy and prevention mechanism in the pursuit of love or charity.</p>
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		<title>148: McCarrick Scandal, Suffering Souls, and the problem of Fake Science [Podcast]</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fresh look on Catholic Washington DC politics, McCarrick Scandal, Suffering Souls, and the problem of Fake Science as I sit down with the President of C-Fam (Center of Family and Human rights) Austin Ruse. Listen to the audio podcast version below or watch the full Youtube interview: Coming up next week, I&#8217;ll be posting [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://taylormarshall.com/2018/08/mccarrick-scandal-suffering-souls-and-the-problem-of-fake-science.html">148: McCarrick Scandal, Suffering Souls, and the problem of Fake Science [Podcast]</a> appeared first on <a href="https://taylormarshall.com">Taylor Marshall</a>.</p>
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					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fresh look on Catholic Washington DC politics, McCarrick Scandal, Suffering Souls, and the problem of Fake Science as I sit down with the President of C-Fam (Center of Family and Human rights) Austin Ruse.</p>
<p>Listen to the audio podcast version below or <a href="https://youtu.be/o-vJ3dlquvM">watch the full Youtube interview</a>:</p>

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<p>Coming up next week, I&#8217;ll be posting two new interviews on &#8220;Eastern Catholic theology&#8221; and &#8220;Hunting in the Bible.&#8221; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Taylor0Marshall">Subscribe at Youtube to get notified.</a></p>
<p>You can get <a href="https://amzn.to/2MDKiv3">Austin Ruse&#8217;s latest books at amazon here</a>:<br />
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<p>You can find all <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Taylor0Marshall">related video interviews here at Youtube</a>.</p>
<p>Have a blessed and fun weekend!</p>
<p>Godspeed,<br />
Dr Marshall</p>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a fresh look on Catholic Washington DC politics, McCarrick Scandal, Suffering Souls, and the problem of Fake Science as I sit down with the President of C-Fam (Center of Family and Human rights) Austin Ruse.<br />
Listen to the audio podcast version below or <a href="https://youtu.be/o-vJ3dlquvM">watch the full Youtube interview</a>:<br />
<br />
Coming up next week, I&#8217;ll be posting two new interviews on &#8220;Eastern Catholic theology&#8221; and &#8220;Hunting in the Bible.&#8221; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Taylor0Marshall">Subscribe at Youtube to get notified.</a><br />
You can get <a href="https://amzn.to/2MDKiv3">Austin Ruse&#8217;s latest books at amazon here</a>:<br />
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You can find all <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Taylor0Marshall">related video interviews here at Youtube</a>.<br />
Have a blessed and fun weekend!<br />
Godspeed,<br />
Dr Marshall<br />]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>Plato&#8217;s Aristocracy and Why Catholics are Losing the Culture War</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2018 22:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Whether you like it or not, we in the West have a layered class system and our inability to see it and plan accordingly has led contemporary Catholics to lose our cultural impact on the global stage. Before we get to the reasons why, let&#8217;s look at the classical Greek and Indo-European idea of society [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://taylormarshall.com/2018/05/platos-aristocracy-catholics-losing-culture-war.html">Plato&#8217;s Aristocracy and Why Catholics are Losing the Culture War</a> appeared first on <a href="https://taylormarshall.com">Taylor Marshall</a>.</p>
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					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you like it or not, we in the West have a layered class system and our inability to see it and plan accordingly has led contemporary Catholics to lose our cultural impact on the global stage. Before we get to the reasons why, let&#8217;s look at the classical Greek and Indo-European idea of society and rank and then move on to how Catholics are losing their social and political influence:</p>
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<h2>Political Society is like a Human Body:</h2>
<p>For Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Zeno and the Stoics, the soul of the human is aristocratic and consists of estates or ranks.<img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-6175 size-medium" src="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_-219x300.jpg" alt="" width="219" height="300" srcset="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_-219x300.jpg 219w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_-292x400.jpg 292w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_-82x112.jpg 82w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_-150x206.jpg 150w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_-250x343.jpg 250w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle_jpg__804×1052_.jpg 393w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 219px) 100vw, 219px" /> You will find this doctrine in Plato&#8217;s <a href="http://taylormarshall.com/2008/07/reading-boethius-consolation-of.html"><em>Timaeus</em></a> (the book Plato holds in Raphael&#8217;s &#8220;School of Athens&#8221;) and in his <em>Republic</em>. You will also find it referenced or built upon in almost call classical Catholic treatments of government. See also Saint Thomas Aquinas&#8217;s <em>De regno</em>.</p>
<p>Here is how Plato puts it together:</p>
<ol>
<li>Head = Philosophers, Scholars, Astronomers, Mystics, Priests</li>
<li>Chest = Generals, Warriors, Police (for the Greeks, nobility always is martial)</li>
<li>Stomach and Genitals = Merchants, Farmers, Artisans, Lawyers, Corporate Owners, CEOs</li>
<li>Arms and legs = Laborers or at the very bottom Slaves (Plato doesn&#8217;t explicitly identify them as &#8220;arms and legs&#8221; but it could be implied)</li>
</ol>
<h2>Plato&#8217;s City-Man</h2>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s easy to see how the cosmo-man fits together:</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>The head thinks and plans. This is the philosopher and mystic who examines reality and plans or foretells the future and explores future contingencies for the cosmo-man (the State).</li>
<li>The chest keeps the cosmo-man alive by pumping blood and moving air. The chest is brave and forces the body to fight and run. He fights enemies inside and outside the populace.</li>
<li>The stomach receives food and produces capital and art through procreation.</li>
<li>Slaves work the limbs and get things done.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Many have noted that Plato&#8217;s four strata are deeply Indo-European and map perfectly onto the Vedic system (1500 BC) of India:</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>Brahmins (priestly scholar class)</li>
<li>Kshatriyas (royal warrior class)</li>
<li>Vaishyas (artisans, merchants, tradesmen and farmers)</li>
<li>Shudras (laboring classes)</li>
</ol>
<p><em>Nota bene:</em> the <em>Rigveda</em> (the oldest Sanskrit text) identifies the 4 levels descending with the human body in a modified way: 1) head/mouth &gt; 2) arms &gt; 3) stomach/loins &gt; 4) feet.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-7600" src="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/4-castes-300x282.png" alt="" width="300" height="282" srcset="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/4-castes-300x282.png 300w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/4-castes-82x77.png 82w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/4-castes-150x141.png 150w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/4-castes-250x235.png 250w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/4-castes.png 359w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></p>
<p><strong>For Plato and the Greeks (and for Europe), people could move up and down the classes based on merit.</strong> For example, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle went from level 3 to level 1. The High Priest Aaron went from level 4 to level 1. King David went from level 3 to level 1. However, in Hindu theology, a person cannot move up and down the classes in this life (because of the false theology of reincarnation). This is a fundamental difference between Western and Eastern philosophy.</p>
<h2>Trigger Warning: You maybe be triggered by the talk of classes and castes</h2>
<p>We like to think that human society is now finally enlightened and that there are no castes or classes. Whether you call it a &#8220;caste&#8221; or a &#8220;demographic,&#8221; you&#8217;re just moving around words. The concept may become more humanitarian over time, but the idea of &#8220;political layers&#8221; transcends cultures and transcends time. Human society has different parts.</p>
<p>The Platonic way of understanding political levels has little to do with wealth. Bill Gates is very rich, but he still belongs to level 3 as a merchant and producer. A modern example of how the the levels can be transcended is how both Barack Obama and Donald Trump ascended from level 3 to level 1. A person at level 3 could be poor, middle class, or a billionaire.</p>
<h2>The 4 Levels of Society in Contemporary Society:</h2>
<p>In America we may think of ourselves as egalitarian and without castes, but we still preserve this natural human hierarchy of political layers:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Head</strong> (priestly scholar class). This was the Catholic Church&#8217;s ecclesial hierarchy (from AD 600-1500). Now it is the University, the Professor, <a href="http://taylormarshall.com/2007/03/plato-on-evil-politicians.html">Politician</a>, Judges, the &#8220;experts&#8221; and (since the 1960s) the TV Media and Social Media (Facebook). They are still almost impossible to circumvent. They seek to influence our daily thoughts and our children. And as always, they are usually very rich.</li>
<li><strong>Chest</strong> (royal warrior class). This is the military, but more and more so it is the IRS, FBI, CIA, police, ATF, TSA, game warden, et al. They have the power to imprison us and kill us. In a good political system, they are inspired by the Head to promote justice and protect the innocent. It was for fear of a corrupted &#8220;chest level&#8221; that the United States allowed its citizens to arm themselves with weapons and, notably, firearms.</li>
<li><strong>Stomach/Loins</strong> (artisans, merchants, tradesmen and farmers). This is your &#8220;middle class&#8221; white collar executives, and your corporate owners. They bear the load of society according to Plato, they must be controlled through &#8220;myths or noble lies&#8221; crafted by the philosophers. Civil religion is the best way to do this. It can be Roman imperial paganism with an Emperor cult (very powerful). In the same way it can be 16th century Church of England with civil obligations ordered to the king or queen who is &#8220;Head of the Church.&#8221; Or it can be a form of state-controlled Catholicism (Napoleonic Catholicism or Chinese Communistic Catholicism) or controlled Protestantism (state Protestantism/Lutheranism found in Northern European nations). In the last 30 years, the controlled state religions are being replaced with political correctness and class Socialism.</li>
<li><strong>Limbs </strong>(laboring class). We no longer call them &#8220;servants&#8221; but our society has people who are deeply in debt (in the Bible, debt is de facto slavery) and who work only to: pay off debt (to banks), have food, and have a roof over their heads.</li>
</ol>
<h2><strong>How do we fix it? </strong></h2>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Now for the first question:</span> </strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Where are you in the hierarchy?</strong> The most important point in this essay is that you can ascend and descend in these layers. It has always been accomplished in every age. The common born Socrates reached level 1 (but he was killed by level 2). Popes have arisen from slave status level 4 to high priest status level 1. Many Roman Emperors began as level 2 generals and then later became level 1 emperors and even philosophers (Marcus Aurelius). In fact, it has always been quite easy for some people to ascend to level 1. Just be aware that level 1 people are often killed by level 2 people.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Now for the second question:</strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Isn&#8217;t it obvious that Christians are leaving or being forced out of level 1 (head) and level 2 (chest)?</strong> Christians are less welcome in Universities. Less welcome in politics. Less welcome in film, TV, and media. It&#8217;s a given. This means a revolution is under way whether we recognize it or not. The TV stations, the internet, the news media, and the social media have driven out everything Christian and are replacing it with a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">new state-sponsored religion of political correctness, which is really environmentalism, pansexuality, and moral tolerance. </span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Now for the third question:</strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>What is our response as Christians? There are two options for us: </strong></p>
<ol>
<li>FIRST OPTION: We can fight to take back levels 1 and 2 through intellectual and moral excellence.</li>
<li>SECOND OPTION: We can recreate our own parallel society/culture and seek to win the long distance race of permanence. This is sometimes called the Benedict Option (hat tip to Eastern Orthodox author Rod Dreher) since it follows Saint Benedict creating an alternative culture and intellectual climate.</li>
</ol>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-7601 size-full" src="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option.jpg" alt="" width="800" height="600" srcset="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option.jpg 800w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-300x225.jpg 300w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-768x576.jpg 768w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-760x570.jpg 760w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-518x389.jpg 518w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-82x62.jpg 82w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-131x98.jpg 131w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-600x450.jpg 600w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-500x375.jpg 500w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-150x113.jpg 150w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-570x428.jpg 570w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/benedict-option-250x188.jpg 250w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" /></p>
<p><strong>Taylor Marshall&#8217;s conclusion on the matter:</strong></p>
<p>My belief is that Christians currently have possess all 4 levels in action whether or not we are recognized in society <strong>(we have intellectuals, warriors, artisans, laborers)</strong>.</p>
<p>Therefore we should be pursuing both strategies at the same time:</p>
<ol>
<li>We should be fighting to take back levels 1 and 2 (apologetics, academics, along with undermining the anti-Christian institutions).<br />
AND</li>
<li>We should build parallel institutions (e.g., our own Universities, schools, Troops of Saint George, our own TV/radio stations, our own art, our own Social Media outlets, our own news stations).</li>
</ol>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Some of us can push forward and fight on the front lines of layers 1 and 2 now, while some of us can retreat and construct our own parallel society (of layers 1-4).</span></strong></p>
<h2><strong>Why Catholics are struggling at the moment to accomplish this transition:</strong></h2>
<p>The hardest part is that Christians (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">especially Catholics</span>) are still deeply tied to all the old institutions, old universities, old political parties, and old means of communication (eg, announcements during liturgy and bulletins). This means we are having a very difficult time establishing a pivot.</p>
<p><strong>Also, the Catholic hierarchy in the West still acts like it is operating at level 1 influence. Sadly, this is not the case.</strong> Secular nations have spent the last several decades figuring out ways to transform bishops from level 1 priestly spiritual leaders into level 3 producers of funds (taxation of church is the end game) and into level 3 producers of government service (grants to do government work which we saw occur in America under President Obama).</p>
<p><strong>The ultimate aim here is the same as that of King Henry VIII &#8211; to make the bishops into level 3 producers and transfer their wealth, land, and production (offerings) to the State.</strong> See 16th century England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway for details on how it all goes down.</p>
<p>The difficulty in establishing a Christian pivot for a new era can be observed in how both Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis are so deeply wedded to the European Union and traditional forms of communication (eg, Encyclicals) as means for bringing about Catholic influence. The Pope might as well be talking about feudalism and the Code of Hammurabi. It&#8217;s like carrying bows and arrows into an era of nuclear war.</p>
<p>The most brilliant minds in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy are talking about the Benedict Option (Option 2: parallel institutions), but we need to engage both fronts. The intellectuals who are currently &#8220;fighting the culture war&#8221; while trying to win back levels 1 and 2 are either Jewish (Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Michael Savage) or secular in outlook (Milo Yiannopoulos, Gavin McInnis, Jordan Peterson). Some might see this &#8220;diversity&#8221; as a strength. I see it as as weakness. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">As much as I like listening Jordan Peterson or even Ben Shapiro, I sometimes cringe when I think of how much better an equipped Christian could respond. We have a profound intellectual tradition (Thomism), but we are not using it. This is likely why God has allowed Christian influence to wane.</p>
<p><strong>Where are the Christians? We need to spend the next decade prayerfully cultivating sharp and relevant Christian minds to engage the culture and social media. </strong>It&#8217;s required for the common good of society and for the moral excellence of next generation. It&#8217;s not enough to possess them <em>only</em> within our own parallel &#8220;Benedict Option&#8221; institutions. We need them out front in the current culture war. And in case you&#8217;re ready to sign up for this &#8220;level 1&#8221; position, be mindful of those level 1 intellectuals and prophets who came before you marked with blood: Isaiah, Socrates, Cicero, John the Baptist, Peter and Paul, Boethius, Thomas Becket, and Thomas More to name a few.</p>
<p>[reminder]</p>
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		<title>Can you be a Christian and a Socialist? The Popes Say No</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[Popes have taught clearly that "Christian" and "Socialist" are mutually exclusive. <p>Early this week, I posted &#8220;Catholic Condemnation of Socialism in 5 Papal Quotes (Pope Leo XIII Puts the Smack Down on Socialism)&#8221; and as expected, folks came out of the word work saying things like &#8220;Aha! But the Church doesn&#8217;t condemn Christian Socialism, but only condemns Marxist or atheistic Socialism.&#8221; This isn&#8217;t true. Simply read Pope Leo [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://taylormarshall.com/2017/09/can-christian-socialist-popes-say-no.html">Can you be a Christian and a Socialist? The Popes Say No</a> appeared first on <a href="https://taylormarshall.com">Taylor Marshall</a>.</p>
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					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em id="gnt_postsubtitle" style="color:#770005;font-size:1.3em;line-height:1.2em;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;">Popes have taught clearly that "Christian" and "Socialist" are mutually exclusive</em></p> <p>Early this week, I posted <a href="http://taylormarshall.com/2017/09/catholic-condemnation-socialism-5-papal-quotes.html">&#8220;Catholic Condemnation of Socialism in 5 Papal Quotes (Pope Leo XIII Puts the Smack Down on Socialism)&#8221;</a> and as expected, folks came out of the word work saying things like &#8220;Aha! But the Church doesn&#8217;t condemn <em><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Christian</span></strong></em> Socialism, but only condemns Marxist or atheistic Socialism.&#8221;</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t true. Simply read Pope Leo XIII&#8217;s encyclical <a href="http://taylormarshall.com/2017/09/catholic-condemnation-socialism-5-papal-quotes.html"><em>Rerum Novarum</em> and you&#8217;ll discover that he condemns Socialism as an economic error</a> contrary to natural law and <a href="http://taylormarshall.com/2017/09/catholic-condemnation-socialism-5-papal-quotes.html">social justice</a>. But if that does not convince you, here are some quotes from subsequent Popes further laying the smack down on Socialism and even on so-called &#8220;Christian Socialism&#8221;:</p>
<h2>Pius XI against &#8220;Christian Socialism&#8221;:</h2>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-7345 alignright" src="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-300x298.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="298" srcset="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-300x298.jpg 300w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-150x149.jpg 150w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-768x762.jpg 768w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-180x180.jpg 180w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-35x35.jpg 35w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-760x754.jpg 760w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-403x400.jpg 403w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-82x81.jpg 82w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-600x595.jpg 600w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-500x496.jpg 500w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-570x565.jpg 570w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI-250x248.jpg 250w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-Pius-XI.jpg 1000w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />Here is a quote form Pope Pius XI on the 40th anniversary of Pope Leo XIII&#8217;s <em>Rerum Novarum</em> showing that &#8220;Catholic Socialism&#8221; or &#8220;Christian Socialism&#8221; is condemned by the Catholic Faith:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true Socialist.” (Pope Pius XI, Encyclical <em>Quadragesimo Anno</em>, May 15, 1931. n. 120)</p></blockquote>
<p>You cannot be &#8220;a good Catholic and a true Socialist.&#8221; It just doesn&#8217;t get any clearer than that! In that same encyclical, Pius XI also teaches:</p>
<blockquote><p>“We make this pronouncement: Whether considered as a doctrine, or an historical fact, or a movement, Socialism, if it remains truly Socialism, even after it has yielded to truth and justice on the points which we have mentioned, cannot be reconciled with the teachings of the Catholic Church because its concept of society itself is utterly foreign to Christian truth.” (<em>Quadragesimo Anno</em>, n. 117)</p></blockquote>
<p>The important distinction made by Pope Pius XI is that even if Socialism is modified to &#8220;truth and justice on the points&#8221; of error, it &#8220;cannot be reconciled with the teachings of the Catholic Church.&#8221; Socialism is inherently broken and motivated by covetousness. Socialism is, they say, the Gospel of Envy.</p>
<p>And one extra quote from Pius IX on Captitalism as not fundamenetally flawed as is Socialism:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Capitalism itself is not to be condemned. And surely it is not vicious of its very nature, but it has been vitiated.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Socialism is inherently flawed and condemned. Capitalism is not condemned. Capitalism is instrumentally neutral. It can be used for virtue or it can be used for vice (&#8220;vitiated&#8221;).</p>
<h2>Pope John XXIII against &#8220;Moderate Socialism&#8221;:</h2>
<p>And I&#8217;ve heard it said by some Catholics: &#8220;Yeah, but Leo XIII and Pius XI didn&#8217;t live to see later moderations of Socialism, so what they were condemning was an earlier form of Socialism.&#8221; In order to refute this objection, we have have Pope Saint John XXIII&#8217;s reiteration and approval of the previous papal condemnations of Socialism <span style="color: #ff0000;">[the comments in red are my own]</span>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-7344 size-medium" src="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-232x300.jpg" alt="" width="232" height="300" srcset="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-232x300.jpg 232w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-310x400.jpg 310w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-82x106.jpg 82w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-600x775.jpg 600w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-500x646.jpg 500w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-150x194.jpg 150w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-570x736.jpg 570w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII-250x323.jpg 250w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Pope-John-XXIII.jpg 750w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 232px) 100vw, 232px" />Pope Pius XI further emphasized the fundamental opposition between Communism and Christianity, and made it clear that no Catholic could subscribe even to moderate Socialism <span style="color: #ff0000;">[Catholics cannot even try to modify Socialism!]</span>. The reason is that Socialism is founded on a doctrine of human society which is bounded by time and takes no account of any objective other than that of material well-being <span style="color: #ff0000;">[Socialism is fundamentally materialistic and closed off to the spiritual]</span>. Since, therefore, it proposes a form of social organization which aims solely at production; it places too severe a restraint on human liberty, at the same time flouting the true notion of social authority.”<br />
(Pope John XXIII, Encyclical <em>Mater et Magistra</em>, May 15, 1961, n. 34)</p></blockquote>
<p>Pope John XXIII teaches us that:</p>
<ul>
<li>Pius XI was right on Socialism as being opposed to Christianity</li>
<li>Catholics may not subscribe &#8220;even to moderate Socialism&#8221;</li>
<li>Socialism is materialistic</li>
<li>Socialism restrains human liberty</li>
</ul>
<h2>Pope Paul VI on Socialism as Corrupt Ideology:</h2>
<p>And Pope Paul VI also condemned Socialism in 1971 on the 80th anniversary of Pope Leo XIII&#8217;s <em>Rerum Novarum </em>against Socialism:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Too often Christians attracted by Socialism tend to idealize it in terms which, apart from anything else, are very general: a will for justice, solidarity and equality. They refuse to recognize the limitations of the historical socialist movements, which remain conditioned by the ideologies from which they originated.” (Paul VI, <em>Octogesima Adveniens</em>, May 14, 1971, n. 31)</p></blockquote>
<h2>Pope John Paul II as Reaffirming Leo XIII&#8217;s original condemnation of Socialism:</h2>
<p>On the 100th anniversary of Pope Leo XIII&#8217;s condemnation of Socialism, Pope John Paul II issued the document <em>Centesimus Annus</em> reiterating the Catholic condemnation of Socialism:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-3985 size-medium" src="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers-300x243.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="243" srcset="https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers-300x243.jpg 300w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers-760x616.jpg 760w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers-493x400.jpg 493w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers-82x66.jpg 82w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers-575x466.jpg 575w, https://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/John-Paul-ii-Top-Prayers.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />It may seem surprising that Socialism appeared at the beginning of the Pope&#8217;s critique of solutions to the ‘question of the working class’ at a time when ‘socialism’ was not yet in the form of a strong and powerful State, with all the resources which that implies, as was later to happen. However, he correctly judged the danger posed to the masses by the attractive presentation of this simple and radical solution to the ‘question of the working class.’&#8221; (John Paul II, <em>Centesimus Annus</em>, May 1, 1991, n. 12)</p></blockquote>
<p>John Paul II lived under Socialism and understood its corruption of the working class. He perceived Leo XIII as a prophetic voice at the turn of the century.</p>
<p>The Popes of the 20th century explicitly teach that whether we modify Socialism in the shape of &#8220;Moderate Socialism,&#8221; or &#8220;Christian Socialism,&#8221; or &#8220;Theistic Socialism,&#8221; it still doesn&#8217;t fit into Catholic teaching. Socialism is not Christian and never will be Christian.</p>
<p>Godspeed,<br />
Dr Taylor Marshall</p>
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